Friday, March 14, 2014

Don't Throw Rocks? Really?

The master Rock thrower, Mark Driscoll, is pleading with people to not throw rocks at him.


You know, Driscoll. If you don't want people throwing rocks at you, you should have never started throwing rocks in the first place.
You don't have the right to throw rocks, throw elders and church members under the bus with no compassion, and then when you are caught, think that you should get some sort of special consideration that you never gave any of your victims.

Zach Hoag, who wrote the blog post that I linked above, asked people to chime in on Driscoll's plea.
Since doing so required that I make an account with disqus, I chose rather to deal with this topic here.
Zach said: "But I resonate with commenters who would rather see Mark repentant and reformed (no, not that kind of Reformed) than see him disappear. "

Mara talking here again:
Well, I'll have to be honest. Sure, if Driscoll could repent to the level that he needs to, that would be great. But I don't see this happening.

I may be in sin for feeling this way. But from all the damage I've seen, I think the best thing is for him to disappear and become an average joe Christian somewhere and to stop troubling the body of Christ with his harmful doctrine and wrong view of women.

It's comments like this from TWW that make me feel this way:
"Mark’s book did cause harm to the woman who read it first, she spoke to me about it and then I looked at it with her, I was able to share some scripture with her and our whole group got into the action of comforting her. But the real problem is the attitude and teachings that are coming out of this movement. Women are having their spirits broken with the doctrine of Driscoll, I am so angry about that. His book really seems to perpetuate a stereotypes, and further it is irresponsible for someone not trained to put himself out there as an expert in some sort of counseling when his advice or counsel continues to victimize those already wounded. Shame on him. And all those people who support this kind of tripe. This man could not counsel anyone out of a paper bag, period. He has no desire to understand the abused and suffering women in this country, and I sincerely hope and pray he continues to implode."

The comment is found here: rebeccalynn's comment

The thing is, even if Driscoll sincerely repented this would not mean that he would suddenly begin to understand what he's done to the voiceless victims still attending his church and bleeding behind his bus. His entire outlook concerning women and marriage is warped. He is not qualified to teach and minister to women. AT ALL. Nor is he qualified to teach husbands on how to treat their wives. Repenting from his national sins concerning plagiarism, buying NYT best-selling author status with church money, etc... Repenting from these sins, even deep sincere repentance, will not heal his sinful attitude toward women.  He needs to step down and be mentored by someone who does understand and care for the abused and suffering women in his church and in our world.

(sorry for the weird white background. sometimes blogger freaks out on me.)


Gem said...

From Driscoll’s apology

QUOTE MD: To be clear, these are decisions I have come to with our Senior Pastor Jesus Christ. I believe this is what He is asking of me, and so I want to obey Him. The first person I discussed this with was our first, and still best, church member, Grace. Her loving agreement and wise counsel only confirmed this wonderful opportunity to reset some aspects of our life. I want to publicly thank her, as it was 26 years ago this week that we had our first date. She is the greatest friend and biggest blessing in my life after Jesus. When we recently discussed this plan to reset our life together, late at night on the couch, she started crying tears of joy. She did not know how to make our life more sustainable, and did not want to discourage me, but had been praying that God would reveal to me a way to reset our life,. Her prayer was answered, and for that we are both relieved at what a sustainable, joyful, and fruitful future could be. As an anniversary present, I want to give her more of her best friend. ENDQUOTE

I’m distressed by Grace’s powerlessness and lack of a voice in their relationship. She dare not tell him plainly that it is not working for her lest she “discourage” him.
NO ONE corrects MD!!! NO ONE!!!

Do not speak in the hearing of a fool,
For he will despise the wisdom of your words. Proverbs 23:9

Understanding is a wellspring of life to him who has it.
But the correction of fools is folly. Proverbs 16:22

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7

The wise shall inherit glory,
But shame shall be the legacy of fools. Proverbs 3:35

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15

In the mouth of a fool is a rod of pride Proverbs 14:3a

Rebuke is more effective for a wise man Than a hundred blows on a fool. Proverbs 17:10

A fool’s lips enter into contention, And his mouth calls for blows.
A fool’s mouth is his destruction, And his lips are the snare of his soul. Proverbs 18:6-7

If you have been foolish in exalting yourself, Or if you have devised evil, put your hand on your mouth. Proverbs 30:32

^^There’s plenty more where these came from!! MD would do well to look at “fool” in Proverbs while keeping his eyes glued firmly to the mirror.

Thank you for allowing me to get that off my chest. Just breaks my heart what his wife and kids must go through with him… :(

Mara Reid said...

This is so true, Gem.
And great catch.

It is obvious, but completely missed by him.