I'm going to pick on a specific thing that a specific small-minded man is quoted as saying. Mark Driscoll might be considered patriarchy light or medium to strong comp. Yet what he says is pretty standard fare among those involved in these teaching. He is just more bold in his presentation. He is quoted as saying:
"Women will be saved by going back to that role that God has chosen for them. Ladies, if the hair on the back of your neck stands up it is because you are fighting your role in the scripture.”
Now let's look at what Jesus said.
Luke 11:27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.” 28 But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”
A woman in the crowd is so moved by what Jesus said that she cries out, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which you nursed."
She could not think outside her role or her body parts because that is all she had known. The highest blessing any woman could ever have is to be related to a great man, like Jesus. And the highest relationship that a woman can have with any man is to be his mother.
Jesus answer to her, contrary to some teaching, was NOT to diminish motherhood or women. It was to remove the eyes of those listening from the cultural restrictions on gender and to the freedom of the Spirit beyond gender constraints.
Women, contrary to what Driscoll and other teach, are not saved by fulfilling a role. They are not saved by using their female body parts to serve others. They are blessed and saved by...
Wait for it...
Hearing the Word of God and observing it. The same way men are blessed and saved. What a concept!
Now, if part of the word of God that Jesus was concerned about was about gender, don't you think He would have used this teachable moment with this woman to re-enforce the need for her to fulfill her role so she could be saved?
Yet, amazingly, He undercuts gender and role requirements of the culture and makes all things level and equal.
All people, male and female, are blessed by hearing the Word of God and observing it. They are not saved by playing a role.
Dear Mark Driscoll, the hair on the back of our necks is not standing up because we are fighting God. It is because you are presenting a false gospel and you are defiling the pure gospel with bitter teaching. You are falsely accusing women of fighting against God when the truth is, you misrepresent God.
Please, Mr. Driscoll, stop building your doctrinal house on the sand of the traditions of men and find the bedrock of Jesus Christ who you claim to serve. Where women, gender, and roles are concerned, you are a false shepherd preaching bitterness and misrepresenting it as sweet.
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The hair on the back of my neck stand up because he denies the gospel.
You are indeed saved by works, through following gender roles.This salvation is not from God, it is the exchange for staying in your role - Ephes. 2:8 in the Mark Driscoll Bible
Most complementarians, even hard comps, could or could not be my fellow believers. But Driscoll claim people are saved through following gender roles. That, per definition, place him outside evangelical Christianity.
That's right.
Why don't more people see this?
Galatians 3:1 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Chriset was publicy portrayed as crucified?
vs 2 This is the only thng I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by thw works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
vs 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
vs 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain--if indeed it was in vain?
vs 5 Does He then, who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
In that quote, Dricoll preaches salvation through works rather than the Gospel.
Strawberry Boy is as stupid as the Pied Piper when it comes to a legalistic reading of the Bible. I just wrote a post on Piper's quick chat on spanking which references Galatians 3 because of an asinine conclusion by the skinny screamer.
That being said, Strawberry Boy misses a very obvious point. If the hair on the back of a woman's neck stands up, its because she forgot to shave that morning.
All bad humor aside, Strawberry Boy has issues with spiritual mysticism. He has used lines like that in many of his shoutings in order to "prove" a point.
"You feel angry at me because the Holy Spirit is convicting you that I am right." "You disagree with me because God is speaking to you." "Your finger nails are scraping the side of the pew, inadvertently, because Christ is telling you I am right."
Sounds more like a cult. It is much easier to prove a point when you don't have to use logic, rather, you just tell someone their disagreement is proof that you are right. Try using that in the real world. Um...wouldn't fly.
That's what happens when people follow you like a freaking flock. You stop being wrong.
Good point.
I'm really tired of controlling preachers whatever their method of control.
And one thing that I'm tired of with strawberry boy is how he builds his church by putting down the ewes in order to garner favor with the rams.
The belief that position and power make one right is called "a high view of God's sovereignty" by many. But it's looking more and more like fatalism to me.
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