Monday, June 20, 2011

"You Have Heard It Said"

As we mentioned before, men have said all kinds of things about Jesus that simply weren't true.
People have also spoken things as divine truth that fell short of God's version of the truth.

In Matthew Chapter Five starting in verse twenty-one to the end of the chapter, Jesus starts dealing with what people say. Jesus lists six common sayings or understandings of correct behavior before God and then exposes how they fall short of how God really thinks.

If you have time, you can read the entire section, but for this post I thought we'd look at one in particular and show how history repeats itself.

One of the sayings is about divorce, which back then, only men could really do. And apparently it was very easy and a form of punishment when she didn't "obey" or "please" him as he thought fit.

Matthew 5:31 “It was said, ‘WHOEVER SENDS HIS WIFE AWAY, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE’; 32 but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

So if the wife burnt the biscuits one too many times because the baby was colicky, it was no big deal for the husband to send her away with no support.

And Neo-Patriarchy is following in this sinful practice and calling it God's will.

The following is to a link speaking about the Neo-Patriarch's way to deal with rebellious wives, wives who won't obey their husbands.
What they have to say falls under the category of, "You have heard it said." Just remember that Jesus said, only unchastity is grounds for a husband to divorce his wife. If she doesn't obey him or prop him up as the master/king of the house, this is not grounds for divorce, no matter how much Neo-Patriarchs want to make it all about who is the boss. Jesus makes it clear, Brian M. Schwertly does not, in any imaginable way, speak on behalf of God. He speaks on behalf of Patriarchs everywhere.


Incongruous Circumspection said...

H.O.L.Y. C.R.A.P! Are you serious!!!??????

Matthew 18 is a favorite of Billy Boy G. and his ilk. This is pathetic. Effeminate? about we screw the dichotomous definitions of gender and just love one another.

This bloke is as stupid as stupid does.


I pity the women (and the men) under his control.

Mara Reid said...

You can still be shocked, I.C.?

Didn't you come out of the Patriarchy movement?

While you were in it, you never heard this?

I write posts like this for two reasons.
Expose the Patriarchy heresy for what it is to those coming out of it by comparing it to actual scripture.
AND to expose how truely evil patriarchy is to those who still walk in la-la land and think it is only another harmless sect of Christianity.

Oh, how I wish the link still worked to Ethics Daily's article on Doug Phillips stand on abortion and ectopic pregnancy.

That would really set you off if you weren't aware of that.

And you are so right.

What Jesus said and did had nothing to do with gender and roles and hierarchy. Where do these people get off making it about the opposite of what Jesus was talking about? How can they justify it and how do they sleep at night?

Incongruous Circumspection said...

I frequently get lulled to sleep in the awesome relationship that my wife and I have after leaving everything patriarchy behind. Then, when I see stuff dredged up and come to the surface like this, I am shocked in a very specific way - that people actually speak these words when all I knew them as was an idea. To a public face, the people I dealt with acted like everything was normal and logical. But, the fact that these idiots are becoming blatant like this, where they spit this bull**** out on the internet for the world to see concerns me.

Are they so confident that more and more people believe in their worldview that they can be immune to criticism that matters? Is it politically incorrect to confront these people in public?

I know two things. They put on a good face and deny deny deny when cornered, speaking a lot of gobbledygook and double speak. Secondly, they are so wrapped up in the worship of themselves by their harem and those that buy their books, tapes, sermons, homemade candles, dresses, sun bonnets, veils, sewn up burlap sacks for company of the opposite sex, condom melters, handcuffs (not for the kinky usage), Old Testament bibles, ten commandment cross stitches, and leather swatting straps, that they don't feel as if the anti-societal message they spit out is controversial at all. I rather think it is the latter.

Mara Reid said...

Is there a huge fall-out from this. Do you know lots of people leaving the movement?

Or is it just as strong as ever?

When will it reach critical mass?

I don't expect you to have an answer. But I wondered if you had any opinions.

Incongruous Circumspection said...

I don't know all those answers. But, I will be thinking about them in the future, as I have been now.

The problem is that most people don't think. They just accept. Just look at politics. People are stuck in the red vs. blue dynamic. It's so stupid, most of the time.

All we can do is disseminate information and be a picture of true freedom and hope that others follow suit and get the he** out.

Any thoughts?

Incongruous Circumspection said...

The fewer we are, the more they can marginalize us. The greater in number we are, the more they have to answer our accusations.

As you see with the Duggars (phlegm spit!!), they are learning how to put a pretty face on the monster.

The funny fact is, we have the majority of the world population on our side. But, that just makes it easier for them to align us with the "evil world". It's an us vs. them dichotomy.

So, in the end, every person that leaves needs to think for themselves and revisit EVERY religious term they have been taught and accepted blindly.

Mara Reid said...

"All we can do is disseminate information and be a picture of true freedom and hope that others follow suit and get the he** out."

I think that pretty much covers it.

Mara Reid said...

"The fewer we are, the more they can marginalize us. The greater in number we are, the more they have to answer our accusations."

Yet there seems to be a mass exodus of daughters and sons. They try very hard to marginalize. But the numbers keep growing.

I guess that's what I was thinking when I said critical mass.

How long can you marginalize the growing fallout?

It seems, indefinitly.

Incongruous Circumspection said...

In the end, everything is about money. When they start seeing red, stuff might start to crumble. Or, they'll serve the kool-aid.