Monday, April 23, 2012

Toddler Property Rights

Toddler Property Rights.
This has been around a while so I'm pretty sure most of my readers have seen it at one time or another.
I've seen this in action because I had toddlers. They are hoot and I enjoyed parenting them.

 1.  If I like it, it's mine.
2.  If it's in my hand, it's mine.
3.  If I can take it from you, it's mine.
4.  If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
5.  If it's mine, it must never, appear to be yours in any way.
6.  If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.
7.  If it looks like it's mine, it's mine.
8.  If I saw it first, it's mine.
9.  If I can see it, it's mine.
10.  If I think it's mine, it's mine.
11.  If I want it, it's mine.
12.  If I "need it, it's mine (yes, I know the difference between "want" and "need"!).
13.  If I say it's mine, it's mine.
14.  If you don't stop me from playing with it, it's mine.
15.  If you tell me I can play with it, it's mine.
16.  If it will upset me too much when you take it away from me, it's mine.
17.  If I (think I) can play with it better than you can, it's mine.
18.  If I play with it long enough, it's mine.
19.  If you are playing with something and you put it down, it's mine.
20. If it's broken, it's yours, (no wait, all the pieces are mine.

Yes, there is a reason. And I'll get to it when I can.

Friday, April 20, 2012

Doug Wilson is a Misogynist

No newsflash there. The newsflash is that I'm even uttering his name on my blog. Doug Wilson is so far gone over the cuckoo edge that I rarely talk about him. I leave that to the blogs that deal directly with outright, blatant patriarchy.

But Wenatchee the Hatchet has a good piece concerning someone's response to Wilson's blog post on rooting out feminine expression in worship.


WTH's posts a link to John's response to Wilson's accusations against the feminine. To get directly to Wilson's accusations, go to the link at the top of WTH's post and find the link in John's piece to Wilson's misogyny and tireless effort to condemn and marginalize all that is feminine.

Skimming Wilson's words and seeing the beginning of "The D'Vinci Code" the other night got my brain moving and I left a comment on WTH's comment thread that I'll repost here.

"I saw the beginning of the "D'Vinci Code" again the other night.

Yes, I know. I absolutely don't agree with the author's conclusions about Mary Madeline (a different Mary) and her relationship with Jesus.

But I use it as an example of what happens when men work so hard to press the feminine out of church history and worship.

Mary M. was a disciple of Christ. And Jesus loved her as such. And there may have even been some jealously on Peter's part concerning their close platonic relationship.

However, men reducing her to a prostitute and striping away any 'inner discipleshipness' from her sets our culture up and makes it ripe for stupid conclusions like the "D'Vinci Code".

Men, like Doug Wilson, hate the feminine so much that they, first accuse the feminine of whatever they don't like in church, then try to eradicate it from Christian expression.

Stupid, stupid men. Then they wonder why both women and men reject off-balanced, over-testosteroned Christianity for something a little more balanced, like Atheism or Paganism.

Sorry, you probably didn't write this to get this kind of response, but watching the D'Vinci Code so recently, then reading this post and glancing at D.Wilson's misogynist blog was too much of a temptation to not bring it up."

Anyone else have any comments concerning this stuff.

Monday, April 16, 2012

Calvinist Taking Over SBC?

SBC Pastor, William F. Harrel thinks so.


At this writing, there are over 150 comments under his post.

Friday, April 13, 2012

Driscoll's NC Position=Unconditional Acceptance?

Concerning the ongoing drama of Driscoll speaking at Liberty University, a Southern Baptist pastor asks:
But, why does Mark Driscoll seem to get a pass, particularly on issues which non-conservative pastors would most certainly not be allowed to skate by? One answer might be because of his Reformed/Calvinistic theology. I don’t know how many times I have read something along the lines of, “Well, I don’t agree with everything that Pastor Mark preaches, but he preaches the Gospel.” That in itself gives me pause to question what they mean by “Gospel.” I didn’t realize that preaching the “Gospel” automatically exempted leaders from the Biblical standard of “being above reproach,” including with those outside the church. As one who is an inconsistent Calvinist in my theology, surely we can find better Reformed role models for students in our colleges, universities, and seminaries to emulate than Mark Driscoll.


Hhmmm. You would think.

To read the rest of what Howard Scott has to say about the Driscoll Machine go to:


Sunday, April 8, 2012

Happy Easter!

I'll just link one song.
It's an oldie but goodie.

It also has personal significance to me. My husband used to sing this one at Easter back in the day when he used to love Jesus.


Happy Easter!

Saturday, April 7, 2012

Driscoll Is Anal

Okay, if you aren't interested in reading about Driscoll's take on certain sexual acts, stop reading now.

Driscoll used to be known as the cussing pastor. I'm thinking that he should start being known as the anal sex pastor. And that's the nice way to say what he promotes.

Anyway, I've already linked the petition requesting that Liberty Universty drop Driscoll. Those who have gone there have seen that Driscoll condones anal sex on page 186 of his book.

Well, Jenny left a comment. Her signature is number 244 on the petition.

You can go to the link I provide below and find her words for yourself. But for convenience, I'm going to copy and paste them here:

My husband went to Liberty U. as an undergrad and has always spoken highly of it. He learned much there about walking in biblical truth and being a man of God. I went to a very secular university and lived the typical "wild child" social life prevalent at my school. I engaged in things I shouldn't have. Imagine my awe at God's grace when He saw fit to give me in marriage to this man--a man I most certainly did not deserve. This honorable man who loves the Lord and walks in His ways. This man who, even after 12 years of marriage, makes me feel like a precious jewel every day. He says to me in all ways, by his actions, his love, and his example: "I love you because our Lord trusted me with your care and well being. I would never dishonor you. I would never debase you. I would never take advantage of you or require of you anything that you don't give to me freely." Imagine again what it was like for us during the 3 years we were members at Mars Hill Church, where, back 8 or so years ago, Mark Driscoll was teaching at the men's retreat all the same things that are in his Real Marriage book--that the wife's duty is to pleasure her husband, that when she is menstruating or pregnant, she should offer up her (backside entry) so the marital bed could be strong. We were shocked, yet we remained in this church because Mark spoke truth in so many other ways, and so profoundly. We didn't realize that we were proverbial frogs in slowly boiling water. We discovered too late that we were so steeped in Mark's twisted teachings about "secondary" matters--which actually became quite Primary in Mark's teaching--that we could no longer open our Bible without seeing anger and condemnation in it. We could no longer bring ourselves to read a book of the Bible that Mark hadn't commentated on in sermons or writing, because we couldn't trust our own interpretations. Mark crippled our faith and our joy in the Lord when HE became our "holy spirit." We finally left the church, but too late. We suffer still, so greatly. We have not been able to trust another pastor or church, and we are trying really hard to trust God again. But God is faithful, and He is healing us. And to this day, my husband would never debase me or require one thing from me in the bedroom that I would not freely give. He honors me as Christ honors His church. Mark debases his wife (and then brags to the world about it, debasing her publicly) in the same manner with which he debases the body of Christ. Liberty University, I ask you, how do you regard the body of Christ? Now is your chance to let us know.

And Here's the link to the petition:

Friday, April 6, 2012

Driscoll and Liberty University

I'm putting these up mostly for myself so I can find them more easily. But anyone who wants to check them out that hasn't seen them yet, they are here for you too.


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A lot going on these days.


Wednesday, April 4, 2012

Stolen Hearts and Stolen Voices

This week seems to be all about bringing up oldies but goodies for those who might have missed them. Lewis Wells at "The Commandments of Men" has observed how patriarchy has stolen away the hearts of its daughters under the guise of protecting their hearts:


My observations on Freedom's blog have to do with Mark Driscoll stealing away the voices of women with his false doctrine concerning roles and human/culture authority.


The comments I'm taking from Freedom's blog are my own. I'm reposting them here for those who have not seen them. But please note, Freedom's comments are just as good and probably better than mine. So if you haven't already, feel free to explore her blog. There is much wisdom on it and she has done some good research even if the blog isn't particularly active right now.

Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Notes on Christian Baal Worship Today

I was checking the Archives of "The Commandments of Men" blog and stumbled on this written back in July of 2010. Now this is in relation to the patriarchy movement that has swept through the home school movement and which is now making it's way into main stream Christianity.


Please note that while the stark example of patriarchy given by Lewis is pretty extreme, the more subtle, softer patriarchy and chauvinism/misogyny promoted by Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill is just as destructive, perhaps even more so due to the fact that it is only about half as extreme as the expression Lewis describes.


But still, the worship of Baal (Master) is there. Women are not allowed outside the box that their masters, or Baals (the men, Mark in particular) have built for them. Women not submitting to Baal worship or worship of men are called Satanic.

Some may call this connection a bit extreme. All I have to say is that Christian teaching that promotes the fear of men or puts men's cultural preferences over and above the freedom offered by Christ,... calling that teaching Baal worship once in a while might get someone's attention and help them realize the severity of the issue.

We are to preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified. We are not to add our own prejudices and cultural preferences to it and call that part of the Gospel. In doing this, we mix in bitter waters to the Living Water and contaminate it.

Monday, April 2, 2012

My Prediction Concerning Driscoll on 9/9/09

Back in the day, it seemed that there weren't very many people talking about Driscoll and the abusive nature of his doctrine and attitudes on authority and women.

I did find one really good friend and we spoke back and forth quite a bit on her blog Freedom For Captives Blog. We were comparing notes on a particular thread and I compared Driscoll to a former pastor (This man is now divorced, no longer pastoring, unrepentant, and blames everyone else for his own failings). I compare watching Driscoll and his shenanigans to watching an impending train wreck.

I will link the prediction below. But first, a note. Even though things look pretty bad for Driscoll, this doesn't mean it's the beginning of the end for him. He could slip through this somehow and land on his feet. But he won't be able to do it forever, not as long as he insists on riding the rails he has chosen.


Friday, March 30, 2012

Calvinism, Useful Tool for Making Jerks?

Hey, I didn't say it. Kevin DeYoung did. He actually makes some good points and I don't have it out for him. Just let me quote something from his post linked here:

"Calvinism is a way of thinking. It's a worldview. It's a doctrinal system. It demands thought and intellectual rigor. It must be learned. It is a minority position in America and in the American church. None of this make the Calvinist a nasty person. But if you have a predilection toward nastiness, then developing an intellectually sophisticated set of beliefs that you understand and most people do not will help you immensely in your feelings of superiority and expressions of condescension."


Whether or not traditional Calvinism makes people jerks or not is not for me to say. Anyone pushing a complicated set of doctrines thinking that what they have is the truth and what all others have is a lie even if all those others profess Jesus, well it makes me very wary.

As Paul point out in his New Calvinism For Dummies pt 6, when major leaders like Tim Challies claim that what New Calvinist have it wheat while all others have chaff, well, that's pretty arrogant. It is easy to see why some New Calvinists fall into elitism which flows nicely into Phariseeism. I'm not saying that is happening to all New Calvinist. But I am saying that I've seen some really jerky, Pharisaical New Calvinists roaming the blogsphere. Just saying.

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Sex, Drugs, and Mark Driscoll, pt. 4

In order to understand this one, it is better to have read part 3 where I tell the story of Fred (not his real name) the Conservative Christian Blogger, his blog post on Rock Star, Steven Tyler, and the comments of the men in that thread.

Briefly, Fred was using Tyler's story to lament the lack of father's rights in abortion situations. The other men were agreeing and commenting on how terrible feminism was and abortion and the disregard for human life of the average American woman. The maddening part about it was how they glossed over the fact that Tyler, in his thirties at the time, had gotten his fourteen year old girlfriend pregnant.

A couple of women, myself included, pointed out the fact that what Tyler did was wrong and that Tyler was the instigator of the series of events that led to a fourteen year old coming up pregnant. We pointed out that Tyler used his Rock Star status to get away with something the average Joe could not get away with. Statutory rape. And where we agreed that we didn't like the fact that an abortion was involved, the abortion was not the beginning of the problem, it was the final, violent solution chosen by a girl's family to deal with the wrongs and excesses of a man living out the Rock Star dream.

To Fred's credit and the credit of his male commentors, they heard us and accepted our wisdom and insight into the situation. You see, Fred and I, even though we disagree on several things, we had a mutual respect for each other. When he made a good point I accepted it as such. And when I made a good point, even if he didn't like it, even if it messed with his male fantasy of how he thought things should be, he accepted my points and my wisdom. He didn't look at my gender and decide that I was a gullible female who didn't know what was going on.

This is not the case at Mars Hill. At Mars Hill women are only allowed to be groupies to their husbands, and Rock Star Preacher worshipers, and obedient stage hands. They are not allowed their own godly voice, wisdom, or opinion. If a Mars Hill woman is not parroting the Party Line and supporting the male Rock Star fantasy, then that woman is considered a threat and silenced.

Here are two examples, one among the elders' wives and the other among the rank and file.

First among the elders. The quote below is taken from here:


*****
"The next morning I heard from the elder’s wife, the one Karen and I had so enjoyed - that she
had shared our conversation with her husband and he felt that it showed “disloyalty” on Karen’s
part, was gossip, and that it needed to be brought to Mark, which he did. Karen was fired. The
gist of what she shared that was branded “disloyal” was a heart of thankfulness that my husband, Paul, was being made an elder because Mark needed strong men around him who could handle and stand up to push-back. When I found out what this elder and his wife had done, I called Mark immediately in tears and asked him to forgive me for my part in that conversation.
Looking back, I’m not sure that Karen or I really did anything wrong, but I was sure afraid."
*****

Jonna's illustrates well how the wisdom of an older woman is despised if it does not prop up the Rock Star Preacher. Mark absolutely needs for strong leadership to push back against his excesses. All men in leadership need this. But Mark didn't want this. He didn't want anyone pushing back. But as we have seen, this is not good. Steven Tyler had no one pushing him back, telling him that he shouldn't be with a fourteen year old. And you see where this got him.

But the wisdom of a woman got in the way of Mark's inflated opinion of himself. How dare anyone, particularly a woman, think that Mark needed any kind of pushing back.

The next example is from the rank and file, and even entry level:


*****
"I wish that was the end of my story, but unfortunately it is not. At that time my husband's best friend and his wife were becoming more and more involved in the church. They were becoming members but we were still hanging out with them and everything seemed fine. Fast forward a month or so and this friend of my husband asks him out to coffee. My husband goes and comes back visibly upset. We go out for dinner where he tells me that his best friend had said that my husband loved me too much, was idolizing me, that I had gone off the deep end, and then started bad-mouthing everything Jeffrey had learned from a previous mentor in our old church. This was very hard for me to believe. I told my husband I thought his friend was just confused and even though his words were incorrect they were most likely spoken out of love. I told my husband he should listen to his own heart and tell his friend that he disagreed but not to let it ruin their friendship. They both loved and respected each other very much, I believed they could both move past this.
Unfortunately that wasn't what happened..."
*****

Kaelee could feel that something was wrong. She had discernment that things just didn't add up. Her husband agreed and respected her discernment and from what I gathered, had discernment of his own. But Kaelee's discernment was despised and her husband criticized for listening to her. You see, in the Rock Star Preacher fantasy and thinking, any devotion that undermines worship of the Rock Star Preacher must be squashed and called an idol. Because there will only be one idol, and that's the Rock Star Preacher Mentality. All other must bow to this.

Since men seem to be more gullible to the Rock Star Gospel than women, the Rock Star Gospel must preach that it is women who are the gullible ones, not men. This will help ensure that the Rock Star Gospel fantasy will stay intact and stroke the egos of certain men so that they can be controlled and manipulated by the Christian Rock Star Fantasy. Because secretly, all these men defending the Rock Star Preacher wish that they could be Rock Star Preachers, or Elders, or Deacons, or whatever so thet must defend the fantasy against the women who see through it.