Grudem a Heretic?

Hey, I'm not the one who asked first.

This was in 'Christianity Today' for Pete's sake.

Complementarianism and the Trinity: Is Wayne Grudem a Dangerous Heretic?

They even add the word 'Dangerous' which I didn't include in my title.

Am I smiling over here?
You bet I am.
I am sick to death of entitled, little men in their holier-than-thou towers using God and the Bible as bashing tools to amass power and authority unto themselves.
It is long past time that they be called out by bigger and more far-reaching publications.

Thanks to The Wartburg Watch for the heads up on this article.

Is Grudem Creating a New Diety?

And can the ESV be trusted?

Wondering Eagle explores this in his post:

Wayne Grudem's Un-Orthodox View of the Trinity and Questions that Must Be Asked: Can the ESV be trusted?

Always beware of Bible translations pushed by people with agendas. Always.

Grudem Recants (almost) Everything He Has Ever Said About Women

Just wanted to pass this along for those who know anything about Wayne Grudem.

Grudem Recants...

Souls of Greater and Lesser Value

Men make judgements based on their beliefs and value systems. But they are based on the darkness of their own hearts rather than on anything resembling the heart of God.

Shirley explains it well here:

The Most Valuable Soul

Complementarianism is Convoluted

It is convoluted, confusing, and contradicts itself.
It leaves the purity and simplicity of the Gospel far behind as it gallops ahead to regions of legalism and slavery.

The book that is supposed to make it all clear, "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood" doesn't help, but makes things worse.

Rachel Held Evans talks about it a bit here:

Complementarianism Hierarchy Outside Home

Promise Keepers Hurt My Marriage

When my husband had the opportunity to go to Promise Keepers over fifteen years ago, I sent him with my blessing not knowing what they were filling his head with.

I am a woman that likes men. I like fellowshipping with them. I want them to be encouraged and strengthened and to grow in confidence in who they are. And that is what I thought Promise Keepers was. I was wrong.

My husband and I got along fairly well before Promise Keepers. But after he came back, issues we never had before began to crop up. When we got into disagreements, all of the sudden he started playing the "You aren't being submissive" card. For a long time I had no clue of the connection between his trip to Promise Keepers and this new tactic in arguments.

Now, many years later, I'm seeing that connection. I'm sorry I ever sent him to Promise Keepers. Instead of being a place of blessing they pretended to be, it was a den of thieves. They stole the heart of my loving man and turned him into a "I'm the one that wears the pants in this family" kind of guy.

So what did they teach my man back in the 90s that set him backwards in his walk with the Lord? Lots of bad things.

Here's what Tony Evens told him:
“The first thing you do is sit down with your wife and say something like this: `Honey, I've made a terrible mistake. I've given you my role. I gave up leading this family, and I forced you to take my place. Now I must reclaim this role.' Don't misunderstand what I'm saying here. I'm not suggesting that you ask for your role back. I'm urging you to take it back.” He went on to say, “If you simply ask for it back, your wife is likely to refuse...Unfortunately, there can be no compromise here.” 


I wouldn't be surprised if the great comp leaders of today all went to Promise Keepers meetings. Leaders like Driscoll, Piper, Wilson, Baucham, Grudem Challis, etc.
I'm sure they went to those meetings or read those books. Because they are saying the same things and hurting countless other marriages.

Thanks for nothing, Promise Keepers.

For more on what was wrong with Promise Keepers, search the web or follow these links:
http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/promkeep.html

http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/fw/9609/promise.html

The Single Story and Small Minded Men

The small minded men in Church leadership that we covered between April 22nd through May 2nd are not confined to the Single Story. Since all three of them have huge platforms and far reaching ministries, they are able to tell many, many stories that make up their lives and their understanding of God and the universe.

I am aware of their many stories and am not capable of reducing them down to a single story if I ever wanted to.

But these men have taken their large ministries and influence and have used their clout (power) to reduce me and other women down to a Single Story.

They have also tried to take away the true voices of women and replaced them with a fake, plastic, CBMW approved voice that doesn't let on that there is anything more than the Single Story of Womanhood.

Voice and the Single Story are not the same things, but they are related. Having a voice is having the ability to speak for yourself and tell your many stories. The small minded men of Piper, Driscoll, and Grudem have big voices and tell many stories all the while using their pulpit and their platform to rob women of authentic voice and to reduce women down to different versions of the same story.

If you recall Driscoll feels very free to define a woman's voice and feels free to be the author of her story as we noted earlier. When talking about how women should be "...his voice becomes soft and gentle as he says that the woman who is quiet and non-assertive, who wouldn’t even ask for that position, she is the one that would be best in that position [of leadership]." (From April 29th post and Freedom4Captives blog)

Piper, if you recall, is the one who, in the book, "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood," cautions women on how to address men so that their 'Manhood' isn't threatened. He tells women that when a man asks a woman for directions, she must alter her voice so that she appears submissive to him while giving him those directions.

Piper is also the guy the wants to define sweet for women and how a woman should respond to her husband when he is pressuring her to join him in gross sin. He gives her a fake, non-authentic voice and he writes a Single Story for her when he says she should respond with:
"Honey, I want so much to follow you as my leader. God calls me to do that and I would love to do that. It would be sweet to me if I could enjoy your leadership. But if you ask me to do this, require this of me, then I can't. I can't go there." (quoted from 2/21/11 post "Men Defining Sweet for Women". )

Small minded men have the privilege of speaking in their own, authentic voice and telling many many stories about themselves, relationships, life, God, and the universe. But rather than allow women to have their own voice and their own stories, they use their power and influence to take away the woman's true voice and reduce her down to a Single Story.

Why Talk About Small Men in High Places

There is much abuse being exposed in various places in the church, Catholic, Baptist, IFB etc and much is being written about it in the blog circles I visit. It needs to be written and the abuse exposed so it can stop and the church can heal. I applaud those who are writing on it.

So why am I talking about three small minded men in high places? Simple. Because their collective influence over Christianity is huge. And while abuse goes on in the extreme sectors of Christianity, the main movers and shakers continue to teach doctrine concerning gender that is filtered through their own fear and insecurity.

These little men say that the Bible teaches certain things about gender and authority that is extremely limiting and constricting to women. And these teachings are quite damaging. The far reach of their words create more wide spread damage than the little sections of abuse done in secret.

Driscoll is considered one of the top 50 most influential pastors in the U.S. His attitude toward women and what to do with them is being heard by many young, insecure, and impressionable pastors who want only to imitate him, their hero.

Driscoll, Piper, and Grudem (among many other men involve with CBMW) have taken the gospel and added to it protections for themselves changing it from the pure gospel to a jockstrap religion for men, that protects the insecure and sensitive places of men to the hurt of women.

So the gospel becomes a means by which insecure men can control other men and a means by which all men can control all women. And anytime the gospel is used to control others, it is a misuse and, in fact, it becomes a false gospel.

Another Nervous Little Man

I guarantee that Wayne Grudem is shorter than I am.
No man over 5'10" would work so hard to make God a submitting helper in order to enforce the idea that a helper always submits because the woman in Genesis is referred to as a helper. Since women are made as full time helpers and submitters, Grudem would rather make God a submitter to whom He's helping than back one inch off the little "Womanhood" structure he is determined to build for us gals. Read it if you can. Once you get past the puking sensation in the back of your throat, his faulty logic loop de loops are quite entertaining.
http://books.google.com/books?id=NHPxcYNV0BwC&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=Wayne+Grudem+God+submits+to+us+when+he+helps+us&source=bl&ots=ysQ-qlbAA9&sig=Ztbjkom1VNczhT_xib7hir9P0Ak&hl=en&ei=URCiTeHpFNCgtweuxNGMAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false